Damage Over Time philosophy in the game

[Press_A_to_grab_your_destiny]

That’s not how ignite works in poe sadly, Ignite is in fact complete trash in Poe because it does not work that way. The damage of the hit has 0 effect on the damage of the ignite. Ignite damage is determined by a percentage of base damage, and scaled with different multipliers.

[grimlock9999]

I like how Dot works in last epoch. Currently, Dot builds are a trade off between quick damage and consistent damage. It’s very hard to oneshot monsters or mobs, but also hard to have a super long bossfight if they are ticking down from Dot which scales exponentially. This opens the way for a satisfying mix of offense and defense if they ever get the mob oneshots, ability for player to position, and balance of defences in a better spot.
For offense - There are ways to reduce enemy resists or buff your own damage, and a few ways to allow Dot to life steal. The skills and passives require some thought to get Dot viable, and not waste points.

You can have weak archetypes for casual gamers ( I made a scorpion baby focused build) or strong builds for uberfans of the game - see any of boardmans builds.

There are also interesting strategic choices. Should I add bleed chance or attack speed to improve dps? How can I AOE clear using a single target Dot build?

[Shrukn]

@Heavy

Some fun fact if you care: I once played a PoE Glacial Hammer Build, just because Glacial Hammer literally had 0% usage on PoE.Ninja

But unless you were extremely high level you also made up that 0%

PoE ninja only shows high level players so theres no way to tell ‘no one is playing it’

Its just ‘no one is playing it above lvl 98’

[Llama8]

You may wish to have a look at Heavy/T-hawk’s posts further up:

@T_Hawk

@Heavy

Totally agree, PoE has a phenomen when they “nerf” a skill from league to league for like 2% and everybody goes like “OH NO SKILL XY is no longer playable” and nobody plays that skill anymore, while it’s still “fine”

PoE is a game that has been around for years, and it is probably not the best parameter to use when comparing things like skill depth/complexity just because it has had so much time to change and evolve. But, the idea that anything can be viable (with a few exceptions) is something that should be valued about PoE.

In my experience playing PoE over the years, almost everyone that cries about things being nerfed and therefor “not viable” are just players throwing temper-tantrums on the interweb because they can. It happens every league. This is probably a condition that the current atmosphere of PoE is what is more along the lines of “what is the flavour of the month OP build that can 1 button insta-kill everything and not take any damage”.

If you actually look at almost every “OH NO SKILL XY is no longer playable” situation, you will find that players can still very easily clear everything with it. Just look at the current league, the herald stacking builds that were “nerfed into the ground and i want my money back” nonsence… those builds is still currently facerolling absolutely everything in the game.

Just because something’s not popular anymore doesn’t mean it’s not effective/can’t clear the hardest content.
Unless you know this & are just being sarcastic/ironic…

[Press_A_to_grab_your_destiny]

I mean, I saw their post. It’s pretty much nonsense. Yeah, you can scale ignite to do say… 500k shaper dps. Given the power creep and overall nerfs, that’s simply so ridiculously not even close to a useful amount of damage. Yes 500k dps will clear the game, but it’s not really viable because A, it’s incredibly slow, we’re talking significantly slow on its own, slow enough to feel bad, or run out of flasks, or generally make it take long enough that the boss probably will murder you. Ignite is fine for clear, but it’s really really bad at bosses. B, When you compare it to what most other skills are doing it’s really really sad. It just feels like you’re intentionally playing a bad build for whatever reason, that’s fine to do but you have to recognize you’re doing it. That said, yes you can clear awakened 8 sirus with an ignite build. It’s a truly awful experience though. It’s a trash mechanic in that game because it no longer scales with hit damage. The example was nerfing by like 2%. Ignite by switching from scaling from a hit to a flat % of base damage scaled independently went from 10m dps ignites, to 500k. That’s basically a 95% nerf. Sure 500k is technically enough, but it feels fuckawful.